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Documentum – Hosting with Amazon Web Services (AWS) – Half the price, twice the capabilities?

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July 11, 2016

With the news that EMC is looking to sell Documentum, clients that used to be looking at Documentum hosting offerings from EMC are now considering other, better, alternatives including Amazon Web Services.  This post will describe the reasons for considering Amazon over EMC/VMWare as well as present some of the technical details of an AWS/Documentum implementation.

EMC/VMWare as a hosting provider versus Amazon Web Services

EMC’s hosting option is essentially an extension for clients that run VMWare internally.  From Gartner’s 2015 report on Cloud Infrastructure as a Service

“VMware has historically been a software vendor focused on virtualization technologies. It entered the cloud IaaS market when it launched the VMware vCloud Hybrid Service (vCHS), now renamed vCloud Air, into general availability in September 2013…..vCloud Air has limited appeal to the business managers and application development leaders who are typically the key decision makers for cloud IaaS sourcing. VMware administrators in IT operations are the most likely champions of vCloud Air within a business, but they often prefer to build internal solutions, and they are also often the people that the business is trying to bypass by going to cloud IaaS.”

In comparison, Gartner’s comments on Amazon

“Amazon Web Services (AWS), a subsidiary of Amazon.com, is a cloud-focused service provider with a very pure vision of highly automated, cost-effective IT capabilities, delivered in a flexible, on-demand manner….AWS has a diverse customer base and the broadest range of use cases, including enterprise and mission-critical applications. It is the overwhelming market share leader, with over 10 times more cloud IaaS compute capacity in use than the aggregate total of the other 14 providers in this Magic Quadrant….AWS is a thought leader; it is extraordinarily innovative, exceptionally agile, and very responsive to the market. It has the richest array of IaaS features and PaaS-like capabilities. It continues to rapidly expand its service offerings and offer higher-level solutions. Although it is beginning to face more competition from Microsoft and Google, it retains a multiyear competitive advantage. Although it will not be the ideal fit for every need, it has become the “safe choice” in this market, appealing to customers who desire the broadest range of capabilities and long-term market leadership. It is the provider most commonly chosen for strategic adoption.”

Gartner Magic Quadrant

 

The full Gartner report is available from a variety of sources including Amazon.

Amazon is the clear leader in this category and with the news that EMC is planning on selling Documentum, many clients are looking for a high end solution that can be used for Documentum as well as other hosting needs.

The remainder of this post will discuss implementing Documentum on Amazon as an alternative to VMWare.

Running Documentum on Amazon’s Web Services (AWS)

In reviewing alternatives, many clients realize Amazon’s Web Services can replace the typical expensive infrastructure used by an on-premise Documentum system in a nearly 1:1 swap.  These components include:

  • Load Balancers – Amazon’s Elastic Load Balancers (ELB) act as security gateways and enable scalability for multi-tiered applications.
  • Application Servers – The EC2 compute cloud hosts a variety of OS systems, CPU cores, and memory sizes for flexibility in sizing configurations.
  • Database – Amazon provides a relational database container service (RDS) that meets Documentum’s database requirements. Amazon manages the backup, underlying infrastructure, OS, and application layers for RDS eliminating the need for a database administrator.
  • Storage – Amazon’s Elastic Block Storage, Simple Storage Service (S3), and Glacier are storage tiers that can be used separately or combined to meet varying requirements
  • VPC (Virtual Private Cloud) – Each client account on AWS is deployed within its own Virtual Private Cloud. The VPC protects the services and infrastructure and provides a private network landscape for the applications. Clients can nest VPCs and private and public subnets to suit a variety needs.
  • Direct Connect – is a VPN service connecting the AWS VPC to client data centers. The connection extends AWS to the on-premise network providing the capability for growing IT capacity without capital expenditure.

Differences between Amazon Web Services (AWS) and VMWare

Choosing to run Documentum in Amazon’s Web Services cloud brings several benefits over EMC’s VMWare cloud offering.  The major difference between VMWare and AWS is the services available for clients.   VMWare, focused on leveraging their industry leading on-premise technology for virtualization, provides this same solution from the cloud.  AWS provides for virtualization as well as a number of different services that would have to be installed in the VMWare cloud and are the responsibility of the client.  These services include:

  • AWS Database and Storage Services – These two components by themselves reduce the manpower resources needed to maintain the Documentum infrastructure. In addition, the services are inherently redundant and satisfy both the disaster recovery and business continuity needs for Documentum.
  • AWS Load Balancer and EC2 – The load balancer and EC2 capabilities of AWS amplify the simplicity of maintaining Documentum. The ability to image and snapshot servers, as well as deploy new servers quickly from snapshots, removes the maintenance and storage issues many on-premise VMWare environments run into, especially with large Documentum installations.

AWS Pricing is significantly below VMWare Cloud Air for an Environment Running 24/7/365

This table describes a simple Documentum environment and the services and costs associated with running it using AWS or VMWare Cloud Air services. Over the course of a year, the VMWare services are estimated to cost approximately $20,000 more than the equivalent AWS services.  Links are provided for the calculators: AWS and VMWare Cloud Air.

Service/Calculator Documentum Products On Demand Services Monthly Cost Annual Cost
AWS Web App Server
Content Server
Full Text Server
Rendition Server
Database Service
Content Storage
Index Storage
US-East (Virginia)
4 VMs @ 100% util
Windows OS
4 vCPU 16GB RAM
1 TB SSD Storage
1 Elastic IP
1 Load Balancer
RDS SQL Server (BYOL*)
Business Level Support
$2,368.84 $28,426.08
VMWare Cloud Air Web App Server
Content Server
Full Text Server
Rendition Server
Database Server
SQL Server DB
Content Storage
Index Storage
Virginia Region
5 VMs @ 100% util
Windows OS
4 vCPU 16GB RAM
1 TB SSD Storage
1 Public IP
VPN – 1Gbps
OnDemand Production Support
SQL Server (BYOL*)
$4,003.97 $48,047.64

*BYOL – Bring Your Own License

Many companies beginning to implement enterprise CMS solutions desire to have a more agile Documentum infrastructure, one that can respond to growth or be restored quickly if a disaster were to occur. AWS services meet both of these requirements and can also be designed to work with on-premise integrations. While EMC’s VMWare cloud may seem appealing since EMC still owns Documentum, the AWS environment provides a complete solution suite beyond server hosting.

Summary

Amazon Web Services provides a market leading solution for hosting Documentum systems.  Companies are choosing Amazon over options from EMC based on VMWare as a longer term option particularly since EMC announced they are looking to sell Documentum.

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  1. Andrey Panfilov says

    August 1, 2016 at 9:38 am

    Hi,

    I do believe you have missed something – you got two _overpriced_ configurations (the bottom line for your requirements is something about 500$ per month, check, for example, leaseweb proposal: https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-server/configure/24077?configurationToken=3a8d37f6d8617a897ef293af) and now you are trying to compare them. The problem is your configuration is not a Cloud case.

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    • Christine Adcock says

      August 1, 2016 at 10:02 am

      Hi Andrey.

      Thank you for the link to the calculator. It appears the $558.35 cost is for one server and doesn’t include Windows licensing. Is that correct? If so, I agree that it would be a much different arch that what I have listed in the comparison.

      Reply
      • Andrey Panfilov says

        August 1, 2016 at 12:20 pm

        Well, Windows 2012 Datacenter Edition will add extra $350 (2 CPU, unlimited instances) to the bill. It is still 2 times less than the cloud price (note that the hardware configuration is better than AWS’s). The problem is the same: hosting just 4 servers in a Cloud is a bad idea. There are two typical patterns for Cloud:
        * I need a lot of computing resources right now for a shot period of time, and I do not want to buy hardware or pay money for month contract
        * I need a lot of “hardware” but I do not want to hire a _large_ IT department with their procurement routines, server rooms, labour costs, etc – I saving money because I do not hire a lot of IT staff

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        • Christine Adcock says

          August 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm

          Thanks Andrey. I think there are a few additional reasons for running applications in the cloud. For example, enabling broader availability or global scope of the application, utilizing hosted services of a cloud vendors, and automation of application and infrastructure maintenance.

          While I agree, a company could run in the cloud with fewer servers, I’m not sure I would solely recommend that approach. For example, for one of our clients using AWS the system takes advantage of AWS’s RDS service for the database and S3 for storage. We also deployed multiple servers with different sizing, i.e. a single large server for both the Content Server and the Index Server, and then one or more smaller servers for the Web App server.

          In splitting up the servers, the approach I’ve been applying is to isolate the forward facing Web App server behind a load balancer and in a separate subnet from the Content Server.

          Finally, with AWS, a high level of automation is available via the AWS CLI and SDK. I’m not sure if HP has an equivalent capability but they might. My client has not automated as much as possible, but it is intriguing to consider the capabilities.

          I appreciate the dialog!

          Reply
          • Andrey Panfilov says

            August 2, 2016 at 12:11 am

            Hi Christine,

            now we came close to “pets vs cattle” dialog – it is about how to cut costs. And the problem is your configuration does not have “cattle”, only “pets” are involved. If we were talking about configuration for, say, 100000 users, that would be a reference case for AWS: a lot of computing resources are involved during _business hours_ (I may shutdown unneeded resources during non-business hours and save money), there are a lot of “infrequent access” documents and I may take advantage of S3 storage, etc, etc … I think for large configurations it would be possible to cut AWS bill by 2 or 3.

            Unfortunately, EMC is talking about “cloud readiness” during last 3 years and there is still no progress on that: in D7.3 they implemented support for swift storage but “forgot” about S3 and Ceph. There are no monitoring capabilities, adding extra computing resources requires a lot of manual work, etc, etc … Documentum is still not cloud ready.

  2. Christine Adcock says

    August 2, 2016 at 8:20 am

    Hi Andrey –

    It is definitely true that Documentum is not designed to take full advantage of the elastic nature of the cloud. Really any application that stores user state on the server is vulnerable to user disruption and is not readily scalable. We have been working with our Hadoop-based solution this year as an alternative. https://tsgrp.wpengine.com/2015/01/07/hadoop-thoughts-on-possibilities-for-ecm/.

    Another thought in terms of pets vs. cattle. Most of the discussion revolves around one company rustling multiple servers, lots of cattle in one pen, but I think the analogy still holds if you consider rustling a few cattle in multiple pens. The need for automation and high availability services allows for solution providers to bring value very quickly to clients, i.e. semi-automating building another pen with a few cattle in it. One person’s pet becomes another person’s cattle. Hobby Farm vs. Ranch in other words.

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  3. aws training says

    November 17, 2016 at 12:59 am

    Thanks for sharing this- good stuff! Keep up the great work, we look forward to reading more from you in the future!

    Reply

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